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The Sword's Interview With Award-Winning Videographer Ben Leon
The Sword's Interview With Award-Winning Videographer Ben Leon
Written by jay   
Wednesday, 14 May 2008 05:06
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When Raging Stallion director Ben Leon won a GayVN for his work on Manhattan last year, this Chris Ward protégé finally came into his own. Leon's shot and edited over thirty films for the San Francisco-based studio, and The Sword met with him at the San Francisco Ferry Building to talk about getting in, getting out and the stuff that keeps us in the business. The full interview after the jump.

THE SWORD: You came from a background in indie film. It's a pretty big jump from art to commerce. How do the two compare?

BEN LEON: Indie filmmaking has a spirit of its own. The spirit is focused on artistic vision and usually driven by the director and the writer (who is usually the director on small projects). What makes me laugh so much about indie filmmaking is that once the vision is there 90% of the effort ends up going towards raising money to fund the project. Plus indie films are basically a black sink hole of cash. Money is almost never made and making money is not the goal.  As a director for Raging Stallion one of the biggest perks for me is that I don't have to worry about money. I mean, I get a budget that I need to stick to, but the money is already there. Within that budget I'm allowed to do almost anything.

And porn is well distributed, meaning that it goes out all over the world without an ounce of effort from me. In indie film once the money is spent and the film is made the next huge problem is getting it scene and distributed. In porn I don't have to worry about that. Raging Stallion ships the video to hundreds of stores and individuals all over.  

So is it just commerce?

I try to think of it as cultural creation. Even though sometimes it feels like I'm just pumping out the next project, I am creating visual culture that a lot of people see. In a lot of ways I get to do exactly what all the indie filmmakers desire without all the work.
 


I know you've said that the genesis of GRUNTS was Tigerland with Collin Farrel.  Do you pull inspiration from mainstream film often?
 

You gotta pull from somewhere. I look at mainstream stuff for lighting and camera work more than anything. I haven't really conquered plot or story yet. As technology pushes forward and high end shooting costs less and less over time, someone like me has the ability to improve production values without breaking the bank.  I watch some independent stuff, but usually with horror. But there are always people out there doing good work and breaking boundaries but it's not always easy to find. I like old films too. Often old films will have been made with technology that is easy to replicate. They had to be inventive. Lately I've been watching Kenneth Anger stuff for inspiration. 

That's funny – cause Anger has that interest in the occult and on the less, uh, puritanical side of culture, so it's a natural fit. He's pulling a lot from the fringe elements of culture, which is familiar to anyone working in porn.

In reality I pull from everything I see and hear. I spend a lot of time looking at photography for inspiration. Since I have not been focused on writing plots or scripts I've been focusing most of my energy on the visual, so photography is a big influence. Lighting is really a big, big thing and actually it has been a focus of much of my recent shooting. Playing with light can be really fun and take a boring set and turn it into something that is actually visually powerful -- at least i hope it can! I've been working on designing new lighting set-ups. I learned lighting mostly form Chris Ward and some from JD Slater and now I'm working on pushing my knowledge and my skills. 

But you're not big on dialogue
.

Film is a visual/audio medium and porn is even more specifically focused on the visual. So that's been my focus. What can I do to show off a man in a new way, to see the bodies with a new eye. That's I focus so much more on light and camera work more than plot or dialogue. However, I am working on my first script for a move called Dirty Loads that will be filmed later this year. It will be my first production completely directed by me that has a story and characters. 

Obviously you see a disproportionate amount of Raging Stallion porn -- what do you do for a break? Who else in the business is making porn worth watching?


I respect the work that a lot of other companies do. Titan and Lucas especially have a visual style that I am occasionally jealous of. But because we make porn that is in a similar vein, I watch them more for technological inspiration … I love amateur web porn,  and a free straight porn on the internet.

You have access to tons of Raging Stallion porn – is there anything that you pay for?

The only porn website I pay for on a regular basis is Fratpad.tv, which I really love. I'm not sure exactly what the elements are that get me going there but the guys are hot and semi-real and they act like real guys … except naked and the occasional hard-on. Most of the content is just an extended tease and for some reason that gets me going. Plus the guys are a very different type of man than what I film everyday.

 
What would you change about this industry if you could?

I would stop barebacking companies from filming and making money. I want to try and push a little less muscle and abs on people and a little more everyday hotness. I wish I could slow down production just a tad and spend a little more time on each project. But the company has been growing so rapidly that it's hard.


But you've managed to carve out some time for non-porn side projects. Has working in porn changed the way you think about filmmaking in general?

As I said, money is a big issue in filmmaking and porn is one way to make films that make money… A smart porn producer/director understands the limits of a budget. We try and produce things that we are capable of instead of some crazy ambitious vision. Chris and I will find a location that we like and can afford and build a movie around it. We use resources that we have already developed. And we fund everything ourselves so we don't aim for the moon every time. We approach each project with the intent to make it as good as possible with as little as possible. That doesn't mean we don't spend a lot of money. When we spend money it's because we know that if we spend ‘x' amount we can make something particular work. It's very reality based.


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