Why Don’t Gay Porn Studios Hire More Black Actors?

Diesel Washington and Leo Forte have some theories, in this brutally honest and frank discussion about race, ethnicity, and the politics of porn.

NakedSword’s Hooker Stories 2 finale playfully subverts some of the stereotypes that Diesel and Leo critique—yes, Diesel was deliberately typecast as an Angry Black Top who, in real life, was nothing like his hooker persona—and hopefully the more these discussions see the light of day (thank you to mr. Pam for letting the cameras roll and capturing this off-the-cuff conversation), the more inclined studios will be to start paying attention.

[NakedSword’s Hooker Stories 2: Diesel Washington Fucks Jayden Ellis]

 

119 thoughts on “Why Don’t Gay Porn Studios Hire More Black Actors?”

  1. Anyone who limits their attraction on the basis of skin color either has had little exposure to other ethnic groups or a bigot. It really is that simple. I have dated men from everywhere in the world, not out of some sort of fetishism but because I have encountered men whom I found interesting. I expect diversity in my porn because I live it in my life. Micah Brandt and Eddie Diaz appeal to me not just because they are hot but the scenes I have seen them in they were like people I know, gay without an affected stereotype, not that their characters haven’t been in stereotypical plot lines, most porn is a trope of some sort.

    I think Falcon has done the best job of the main stream studios to use non white performers in a manner that makes the closer to people you meet in the real world -taking into account that black, white, Asian or Latino characters in porn are not real. Sean Cody may have few minorities, but they are cast and used in the same fashion as other performers. Landon for example comes across as sweet, goofy and definitely hot. Nicco Sky is so popular at Randyblue that he is close to over exposure (though not in my book). I think if the studios take the time to not only search out minority stars with the same criteria they use for white performers, and pay them the same rates, I am sure that people will appreciate the diversity. I certainly do.

  2. I love seeing black cock, it’s such a turn on. My fave movies are when a black cock is in a white ass and wishing it was my white ass.

    So get more black cocks in gay porn, I LOVE IT

  3. There are a number of commentators on this board who have made objections to what they characterize as “thug porn”, more importantly, they have questioned why the only images of black men that they see in adult films are images of thugs. First, it is important to note that the overwhelming majority of black performers never portray thugs on film. There is a distinction to be made between being a thug and being a hip hop urbanite. Thugs have criminal records and they pursue criminal activities. Most of the white performers in adult videos today will portray a thug of some sort before they retire, not to mention the ones that are real life thugs. Hip hop culture has produced an urban patois, style of dress, and even mode of interaction that those of us who enjoy that culture find appealing in a porn context. A black performer on film who sags his jeans, speaks with a distinctly urban drawl, and presents tough (in a hyper masculine way) is no more a thug than a white guy wearing a bandana, driving a motorcycle, and purchasing leather chaps is a Hell’s Angel. The fact that anyone conflates the two speaks to their inability to distinguish between a cognizable and virtuous culture (hip hop) and a more modernized form of racial stereotyping – the thug. Second, it is important to note that what draws black men (and white men too) to so called thug porn is the visualization of a palpable heteromasculinity. A man being a man, demanding sex, and controlling the cadence and rhythm of it is a turn on for most men. Granted, we would love to see more scenes of black men as doctors and lawyers, but the thug porn scenes are perfectly fine as well. In all, I love my brothers on film and wish that we could see more of them.

  4. WOW…..If you ever want to know how racist the gay community is all you have to do is start a conversation about “MEN OF COLOR” in porn…Let me start by educating white gay men on the term “MEN OF COLOR”, meaning a male from a ethnicity where there skin tone contains melanocytes cells aka “MELANIN”, they include black, latin/hispanic, asian, sub saharan, middle eastern, indian, native american, and polynesian so it’s not just about a black face in porn….and to let you know, when you have to state “I’m not racist” YOUR RACIST….the argument that blacks in porn don’t sell is a false one, some studios don’t want to hire black actors because they’re afraid of their white audience reaction of seeing a man of color fucking one of their own, and complaining about black porn not being diverse is idiotic. Fact is a lot of white gay men are just as racist as white heterosexual men, to them the only thing a man of color is good for is numbers for gay rights issues, as a drag queen to entertain them, and to fulfill a sexual fantasy. What’s funny is the irony of the gay community wanting to compare the gay rights movement to the Civil Rights movement, the good thing is that it’s not all gay white men that are racist and haven’t a clue. You would think that studios would be smart enough to want to tap into a market with extremely high levels of disposable income, with the number of black prides around the country, Sizzle in Miami, Atlanta Pride, Houston Pride, At The Beach in LA 4th of July weekend, you better believe there’s money to be made, plus it’s not only black & latin men that attend. And for all those white dudes who say “I’m not attracted to black men” who the fuck said they wanted to have sex with you anyway, like you being attracted to us is suppose to mean something.

  5. I’m more of a SWORD reader than a commenter, but I’ll gladly jump in on this conversation: a conversation that has been rolling around since Randy Cochran made the scene in the late Eighties / early Nineties; and cropped up intermittently during the rise (and fall) of Jeremy Tucker’s career in the 90’s; has dogged Diesel’s career all through the Aughts up to now. Having been a Person of Color watching porn since 1978, and actively following Gay Porn’s Industry doings since at least 1990, it’s a testament to how slow some things change as regards to Black Men in Gay Porn to still be back at the Starting Gate with the Question that headlines this blog post. As Diesel says in the video above, it’s 2013. Why are we still even having to have this conversation?

    Why? Because the sad truth of the matter, all punditry aside, this Country is still not that far from the marches in Selma and Jim Crow as it would like to congratulate itself as being. Would any White president have had to withstand the volume and the ugliness of attacks coming from a racial place wiithout widespread public censure as Our Current President has, policy and political lean irregardless? I would assert not.

    So if even our Nation’s highest political functionary is not exempt from bias, how can we assume that Gay Porn, which employs people ingrained with the socializaton of this country, to be any less biased than the culture at large? In addition, as a stigmatised commercial enterprise in an unstable economy, Porn overrall is an industry increasingly averse to risk. Sad to say Sexual diversity and interracial sexual contact still risky in significant parts of this country. As late as 2004, when I worked in a ‘bricks and mortar’ Adult DVD store, it was still part of the reality that Interracial titles, regardless of orientation, would be ‘verboten’ product to ship to certain areas of this country.

    Despite the seeming online prevalence, the Gay portion of the Porn industry market is still a miniscule segment of the business, and one tlhat does not always get its due in terms of financing and support. To those of you who suggest Diesel go DIY, from where is he supposed to get the startup fiinance, if finance sources are biased against supporting gays and people of color? Would you, as a consumer, help fund efforts to create this “alternative” porn?

    For Chi Chi, Michael, John, Keith, Tim, and co.; those of you who hold the reins of production: beyond individual corporate survival, what are you willing to do to grow diversity in the industry, and mentor and foster diverse visions like Diesel’s? The voices and ideas of the future are out there, trying to grow their projects and keep them sustainable. Are you helping to create a future, or just your own business survival? Questions for further consideration, indeed….

  6. My biggest complaint about interracial porn is that I am a White top who loves Black bottoms, but i very rarely see any of that in interracial porn..It’s always the same ol’ stereotype of the sissy White queen getting raped by the big Black thug. When are we gonna see more of some White power tops nailing cute little Black twinks?

  7. The cold hard truth is this…if you are excluding someone racially (race being something that they can’t control), then that IS racism. It’s not a preference.

    Me personally, I AM and HAVE been attracted to men of all races, HOWEVER there are certain behavioral traits that I am not attracted to. I’ve always said that people are a product of their environment. Sometimes that environment is desirable, sometimes that environment is less desirable. And as far as Black men are concerned..I’m attracted to Black men, but am not attracted to the “thug/player” type that most in “that community” seem to think is desirable due to what I believe is a history of negative media portrayals.

    I’m 28, currently live in the Metro-Detroit area, and NEVER has racism been more apparent than in the gay community here. Being someone of mixed race (my ethnic makeup being Venezuelan, Japanese, Black and White), a lot of people don’t know what I am exactly. And it’s my “racial ambiguity” that has allowed me to overhear all types of hateful things that I don’t think I’d have heard if I didn’t look the way I did. Pertaining to the gay community in particular, If I had a buck for everytime I was around an unsuspecting [Insert Race Here] guy that has said something SERIOUSLY fucked up about the Black community…I wouldn’t be a poor graduate student that’s for sure!

    Even now I constantly receive messages on gay dating/hook up sites from a majority of profiles that state “No Blacks”. These profiles 9 times out of 10 belonging to White men. When I turn them down (always in a respectful manner of course) I’m usually immediately asked why. When I inform them about how their profile clearly states “No Blacks”, their response is almost always something like “Oh well I’m not attracted to the darker ones”, “I like the light skinned guys”, “Well you’re mixed, so…”, “That’s mainly to Detroit Black guys”, or something else equally, if not more, offensive.

    All of this self-justified racism, and these self-justified racists needs to get a life, get a clue, and keep it moving.

  8. I feel a lot of gay White men DO like Black men, but they consider it a ‘separate taste’. For instance, I have memberships to SeanCody and Corbin Fisher (both are basically Whites Only clubs)But I also like my CocoDorm. Sometimes you feel like vanilla and sometimes u feel like chocolate. You don’t always have to mix them.

    1. You make it sound like black people are a different species. They’re human beings, not exotic alien creatures that have to be separated from the “normal” white people!

  9. Black males are not portrayed well on predominantly “White bread sites” like CorbinFisher and SeanCody (I call them that because all the guys on that site look almost exactly alike, very little variation-like a bag of White bread). I’m speaking of Landon on SC and Dante from CF. Notice how none of the White guys will swallow their cum? But the Black guy is almost required to swallow theirs? (Don’t believe me, look at the interracial scenes from the 2 guys I’m referring to. Other times when you do see Black men in interracial porn, it’s usually with some White queen with a Black cock fetish–Not a hot White guy who’s hooking up with another hot guy who happens to be Black. Blacks are treated as a “specialty” or “fetish”. They are objectified, which is just as bad as being excluded.

  10. some random guy

    speaking of. ever encountered any asian porn that wasn’t overloaded with ridiculous sterotypes?
    only one i know that features like, asian-american guys with like. ya know. muscle structure is peterfever.com

    im particularly fond of Jessie Lee.

  11. I hate to do these “Promoting Comments” but here goes…

    All this talk that I’m whining or Bitching and not doing anything..Yawn

    I’m the Creative Director at http://www.Dawgpoundusa.com

    I have been working a project starring some of the most popular Men of Color models in Gay porn.

    The project is called “Hard Wire” check below for a sample

    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cqk6sdh-EY&w=560&h=315%5D

    Based on the Vid that I shot/directed/edited/promoted…

    I’m doing something about Diversity in gay porn..

    Who would have thought? Diesel Washington creates a Doctor that is Black…and it just happens to be Eddie Diaz in that role..

    So as far as standing on that SoapBox preaching..

    I kicked over the soapbox, and smashed it in two, lite on fire, and to put out the fire….. I PISSED all over that FUCKING SOAPBOX!!

    1. I think you missed the point.
      No one is saying you’re not doing anything.

      I’m talking about in terms of your diversity crusade because you are always talking about race and diversity.
      What are you doing to further diversity in porn?

      DawgPoundUSA is not really diverse.
      That’s ghetto thug porn. Sorry.

      You’re not making in leaps there. It’s not like you’re changing the game.
      I don’t understand what it is you’re doing.

      Where are the white guys on DawgPoundUSA?

      1. I think your missing the point as well…

        What part of “Working” on a Project called “HardWire” are you not picking up on. All you know how to do is Lash at Me Lash at Me..

        I know I give off the character that you love to hate, but sometimes when are you going to realize? I’m not sitting on some couch complaining and doing nothing about it. It’s recession so doing any kind of start up is hard!! Ghetto Thug porn..?I really can’t even respond to that one, it’s ignorant at best…

        If your trying to get a Rise out of Me.. its easy

        Just get on your knees, open your mouth, and move around your tongue

        …On my Dick!!

        1. Not a surprising response coming from you.
          Yes, Ghetto Thug Porn. You of all people know exactly what I’m talking about.

          You’ve worked for top main stream studios.
          You know the difference between that and Ghetto Thug Porn filmed in the “hood.”
          I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with it. I’m just saying that is not diverse.
          I didn’t understand what the point was of you bringing up DawgPoundUSA when I was talking about diversity.

          1. When I clicked on the dogpoundusa model search website, I saw Ethnic: Black, White, Latin, Asian, Other
            Type: Thug, Cholo, Preppy, Mature, Biker, Queen
            You obviously did not click through the website.

  12. Why doesn’t Diesel Washington start his own porn company?
    He’s been doing porn for a long time and worked for a lot of big name studios.
    Why is he still just an employee, and not a BOSS??

    Start your own company and make the porn you’d like to see.
    There’s obviously a fan base waiting for it. Just look at the responses to this video.
    Stop waiting around for other studios to come around because they never will.
    Most of the models do not want to work with black men.

    Be the Tyler Perry of Gay Porn Diesel Washington.
    That, or you can just sit on your soap box complaining like most black people.

    1. “That, or you can just sit on your soap box complaining like most black people.”

      You’re either an idiot, troll, racist, or a combination of all three. If I’m not mistaken he’s doing that very thing. You could have found that out, but must have felt an urge to share your theory about black folk and soapboxes.

      1. Your tone sounds very pointed.
        I must have hit a nerve.

        I wasn’t trolling and I’m not racist.
        I’ve fucked black, latino, white, and asian guys, and one really hot guy from Sri Lanka.

        I’m hardly racist.
        Is it a knee jerk reaction to call people racist whenever they say anything negative about black people?

        Diesel Washington is known more for bitching and complaining more than his porn.
        He’s known for getting into internet “beefs” with white porn stars.

        1. Strom Thurmond and Thomas Jefferson fucked black folk too, and both are hard-core bigots. Don’t pull the “my bedroom is the racial rainbow” crap. Fucking is not ideology.

          You could have easily made your point about DW as an individual, minus the “he’s like the rest of those whiny black folk” but you didn’t. Like the standard racist, you went for the individual equals the group and the group is the individual.

          My knee jerk reactions are only reserved for bigots like you.

  13. As a gay black man who adores porn I have been delighted, disgusted and disillusioned by some of the posts in this thread and have been debating a response. But I decided/hoped the best way to respond would be by joining Naked Sword and the first scene I click on being the clearly scorching hot scene of Diesel Washington and Jayden Ellis. Yes, I am clearly bowing down to the machine in this respect but I hope the machine will compute that there truly is a market for black performers in gay porn. And as much as Diesel (as the performer) sometimes annoys me, he is one of the greats, and should be treated as such.

  14. british-redhead

    Diesel Washington…let’s see huh:

    Great face.
    Great smile.
    Great kisser.
    Great cock-sucker.
    Great fun time in and outta the bed.

    What more could a bloke ask for!

  15. Diversity, as a concept and way of life is, for the most part academic. At the heart of this debate is the fact that the black aesthetic has never been truly appreciated much in Western culture do in large part to politically and socially ingrained white supremacy, and the fact that the European aesthetic has always been presented as the standard, the most appealing of looks. The greater the deviance from that standard the more “unattractive” a person appears. The only way that we as African-Americans have been able to confront this challenge is by embracing our aesthetic in defiance and demanding greater visibility. When fashion magazines at the middle of the last century refused to feature our black models we created our own magazines to showcase us and did so with high production values and class. That was the first phase of the full frontal assault on the “standard” – black owned and generated visibility.

    The next phase then is the Bill Gates/Oprah model – if you cannot beat them, buy them. Instead of creating more Papithugz (Hallelujah for Cristobol) or other ethnic based adult video companies (while that is welcomed), those of us that want to see more diversity should be buying up or investing in companies like Falcon, Titan, NDS, Randy Blue (Hallelujah for Cayden Ross), Menatplay, Men.com and Bel Ami and then producing the type of diversity we want to see in videos – I smell an investment group idea. We can then begin to shape taste and attraction in much the same way that years of whites only programming, social segregation, and demeaning black imagery have made the European aesthetic dominant. The idea then is not to prove that black men are superior, the idea is to prove that sexiness, while not color blind (nor should it be), is race neutral.

    1. Bel Ami is a European studio. Why should they be expected to hire ‘diversity’?

      Where are the African studios producing this mythical ‘diversity’ porn everyone seems to be demanding?

      Why aren’t African-Americans producing the porn they say we all want to see?

      If there’s really a market, this isn’t a problem, it’s an OPPORTUNITY for someone willing to put in the effort to make it happen; just like Facebook, Google, Amazon, et.al.

      Spike Lee, Halley Berry, Denzel Washington all complain there aren’t enough opportunities for black actors in Hollywood. Why are they sitting around whining and waiting for white studios to make opportunities for them? Why aren’t they writing their own scripts, hiring their own actors, and producing their own films?

      If blacks don’t like their lot in life, they have the freedom to do for themselves. And that’s the real issue. They’re still waiting for ‘the man’ to hold their hand every step of the way.

      I, for one, will not be attending their pity party.

      1. You’ve missed his point entirely, your ignorance and prejudice against blacks clearly shows. You must be one of the vocal few that hate seeing anyone of color in porn.

      2. There was no aspect of my post that called for a “pity party”. My post was a call for taking a more proactive, free market approach to confronting the lack of diversity in the industry. Indeed I was impliedly calling for Black men to take responsibility and then take over the industry. I want that even more though because honestly, I believe that it would further expose the festering racial tensions that exist in the queer community. Thank you Real!

      3. Oh dear, your not bright kind.

        Because they live in diverse melting pot called USA. Why should we they or ethnicities go and self segregate themselves?

      4. You know what, I hardly ever reply to any comments on these blogs but you know what Kyle, keeping it 100 with ya; you’s a stupid a** ignorant f***! The actors you just described are just that you nutsuck, THEY ARE ACTORS. Trust and believe if they wanted to become directors you’d have your honkified a** right there in the movie theater popcorn in hand enjoying the movie! I put money on it that you one one of them dumb ass rednecks that can’t stand anything that ain’t the color of a marshmallow but you don’t have no problem sitting around trying to emulate the black artists that you feel “da master” still got working the cotton fields.

      5. Just wondering

        Are you dumb or just pretending to be dumb for the sake of getting attention?

        ”Bel Ami is a European studio. Why should they be expected to hire ‘diversity’?”

        As far as I know, Europe does not exist out of the Czech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania. Bel Ami is an European studio, so anybody should expect diversity from them; may it be from Spain, Ireland, The Netherlands etc.
        If you wanted to make your argument more valid, you would have added Eastern European and even then this would have been a shitty argument nonetheless.

        You’re talking about setting up companies, centering on African-Americans and opportunities and then you name Google, which has all the colors of the rainbow. I don’t/can’t understand why you would mention those two together? Porn studio’s are about appearances and Google is… Google.

        You just have something against black people. You think all black people complain and want pity, but when a different ethnicity or skin colour remarks something, then it is valid.

        I feel sorry for you and when you want to hold a pity party, don’t invite me. I may have the colour to attend, according to you, but I don’t have the mentality. I’d rather celebrate =D.

      6. Spike, out of college and in NYU graduate film school, started his own studio, hired his own, produced and directed his own movies raised money for his own budget.
        Sorry to say it, but the world is racist and dont mind keeping a foot on a blackneck(making it hard to start and sustain black biz to success)
        Am I racist , not one bit. I love my black friends just as much as any other and would never sell out or overlook a friend of mine for a stranger that happens to have the same color skin as I!
        And I would RAPE Shemar Moore and Terell Tilford(actor), DwayneThe RockJohnson, Arian Foster, Chad Brown(linebacker NE Patriots 2007) to name a few!(there are soooo many in the NFL) LMAO.
        Anywhooo b/c of this racism porn shit! And MANY racist people are!(I’ve witnessed their rants b/c they assumed that since I have pretty little blue eyes just like them they would speak their brains in front of me, behind closed doors)black porn does not sell well as those pink little holes.
        It is fucked up. All everyone can do is stay proud of who they are and always move forward w/o malice based on skin.
        I have slept with mostly white, some asian quite a few mulattos(yummy yummy yummy)
        I have never kissed a dark or light skinned man that has big lips or wide nose but funny enough in high school in my str8 days I found dark skinned girls so attractive.
        I have been in groups with dark men that have blown me tossed my salad…basically everything but kissed me and rode my cock. If you look at the few I mentioned above I have a sexual, huge sexual thing for mulatto men. They make me melt
        There was a time when I wouldnt care if a white guy was ugly in the face cause if he had a nice body I would just do him doggy style. Lmao
        My sexual preference does not mean I would friend you. If you were cool I would put you in the friendzone lol. Just that some black guys couldnt handle that …they wanted to be more than just friends

  16. I will pay to watch Denzel Washington but not Diesel Washington. Apart from the latter’s chronic split personality, he comes across as the black version of Samuel Colt – all hype, no substance. What part of ‘my dollar talks’ that he still does not understand? Race Cooper is huge in Europe, why isn’t Diesel Washington?

  17. some random guy

    in the name of God and all that is holy.

    a sword.com post featuring only non-white pornstars.

    -passes out-

  18. Porn is segregated by taste. It always has been and it always will be. There are plenty of black men working in gay porn for studios that feature black men. The problem is black guys who only want to fuck white boys, not black guys, and the blacks who love whites are the most vocal whiners that there aren’t any blacks in white boy porn. There aren’t any women either, or trannies but you don’t hear them whining about it.

    1. Tons of women are looking for gay men, yep.
      And the word “tranny” is offensive. Common sense my arse.

  19. The most ridiculous thing I’ve ever come across is a prejudiced gay man. A gay man that is prejudiced against other races of gay men. Now, I am a black gay man, but I am not attracted sexually to most Asian gay men. Just my preference. Its not racism or hatred, just a sexual attraction. I don’t get offended when other guys aren’t into black men. I just move on. There are other fish in the sea. I hope that one day people will wake up…ESPECIALLY the gay community….and stop being so damn sensitive to everything. Case in point, the whole “bullying” thing. Gay kids aren’t the only ones who get bullied. Straight kids do too. Where are their “It Gets Better” videos? C’mon guys. Wake the fuck up.

    1. There are something like over 2 billion Asians on the planet Have you met most of them? Not being attracted to an entire ethnic group is choice, not an innate preference. You’re right, all teens do get bullied, but gay teens experience violence, and homophobia, which in turn lead to a statistically higher rate of suicide. I think you’re the one who needs to wake up.

  20. If Diesel and Leo believe there’s a market for black gay and diversity porn, they can put up or shut up.

    If they believe people want to see more diversity, they should start their own studio and run it as they see fit.

    They can nag and whine about how ‘white’ studios aren’t hiring blacks and others. But let’s say their nagging and whining forces those studios to hire more diverse actors. Then what? A couple black men might get to do a couple extra scenes. BUT, and here’s the BIG BUT, all the profits from this diversity will still go into the hands of ‘white’ studios.

    As I said, if Diesel and Leo believe there’s a market, they should start their own production studio and they can run it ask they want AND keep the profits for themselves.

    Start your own diversity studio or keep your whining to yourselves.

    Typical black whining about ‘da man’ while doing nothing to seize an obvious opportunity (that is, if it’s true people want to see diversity porn).

    1. True Kyle nagging does no good right?

      Maybe Diesel should try being a Creative Director for Dawgpoundusa.com , u know work on projects with a diverse cast right? Put together together a project starring Hottest men of color he can find right? Maybe call this project “HardWire” put his blood sweat and tears and invest his own money in project.That would be awesome..

      And maybe Leo could start off as a Co director, maybe work his way up from PA, maybe work behind the scenes of NakedSword, blog, write story lines and find a spot in the industry behind the camera, as well as in front of camera.

      So yeah ur right we shouldn’t be at the table nagging over things like Diversity, Race, and Industry woes..

      We should shut up and fuck..

      P.S. how many comments is “Just saying “going to leave? Fuck he’s at 10 comments

      Like I said a Pubic Hater just hugging my nuts glad I could inspire u to leave so many comments(got no life)

      Zach check his IP address..bet it comes from San Fran

      1. Mr. Washington is still shackled with the chains of his own thinking.

        Mr. Washington is nothing more than a slave working on the white man’s porn plantation. He’s a slave and he wonders why he has no power to change da Masta’s mind about who da Masta hires to work on his plantation.

        Again, I come back to the big but, BUT, Mr. Washington, if he was willing to put in the work and secure the financing, could himself be a plantation owner. Instead of working as the slave, Mr. Washington could be da Masta.

        As da Masta of his own porn plantation, Mr. Washington could make his rainbow porn but I suspect it would likely be nothing more than perpetuating the same racial stereotypes of big black men nailing blond twinks.

        But at least Mr. Washington would be the one making the decisions and earning the financial gains.

        Far from being a hater, I’m the one trying to free Mr. Washington of his own outdated, stereotypical thinking.

    2. “Typical black whining about ‘da man’ while doing nothing to seize an obvious opportunity (that is, if it’s true people want to see diversity porn).”

      Oh, yes. Another racist decides to speak up.

  21. Maybe if more straight black men attempted to get work in “gay” porn things would be different. Look at all the lame straight white dudes who get work. As long as they were hot and straight they would be hired in spite of being black, no? Just like the white dudes.

      1. Just as you slam there asses with your gigantic mandingo cock! Isn’t that a scene that came out earlier? Where the whites were bottoming and calling those topping blacks slurs? I’m sure diesel would take those roles.

  22. I posed the very question to someone in the industry. I wont say what the reply was but Diesel makes a valid point. Damn that Leo Forte gets more and more appealing to me. Since two of my favorites have retired or are doing less in the industry I may have to make him one of my new favorites. Leo is becoming hotter the more I see him….YYYUUUMMM!!!!

    BTW….When Leo aasked if Diesel if he could fuck, (top) him I didn’t hear an answer.

  23. Men of color DO NOT SELL IN PORN. Why is this even a debate? Studios have no time to be racist because they’re too busy trying to produce porn and stay in business. What are some of the most successful studios? Bel Ami, Sean Cody, Randy Blue etc. They sell because they have HOT, YOUNG, WHITE (and sometimes mixed) guys. Quit playing the role of the victim.

  24. Bonita Springs

    Oh, please, don’t these Marys ever think about how frequently they specifically get scenes BECAUSE of their color, not in spite of it?

    1. That’s the thing we’re discussing though. Why does color HAVE to be a factor in getting scenes or not? Why can’t it be because of how good a performer you are / your looks / your body / your dick instead of the color of your skin?

  25. WOW… I have to say, I actually think I might like Diesel now, after watching this. I certainly would like to see him do anything else besides being the rough ass top!

    Can’t stop loving Leo (swoon)

  26. It all boils down to what sells.If midgets sold big quantities of porn it would be one company after another putting midgets in porn.

    1. Your premise has no logic. You;re saying consumers of porn are the reason why more black porn models aren’t hired? Please!

  27. No Racism, just bad attitude and entitlement. Very few black men bottom, because they view the bottom’s role as inferior and effeminate. Or, in racial terms would view the white topping a black bottom as racist. I’m vers myself and don’t see why someone would assume such things, since anal could be pleasurable if the top makes an effort for it to be for that bottom. With a lot of guys they just view it as a hole and plow it without any care for the person at the other end.

    I personally find such attitudes with men unattractive. And I wouldn’t support any performer white or black who has this bad attitude.

    1. How many comments are you going to leave??

      And quite frankly, Diesel looks like those men, who use that term and are very hostile to anyone who might be perceived as effeminate or gay. I don’t like watching his porn for the reason he plays into that concept, and even quite possibly enjoys it.

      WTF?? Are you dense?? I’m Gay myself and “I look like those Men, who use that term and are very hostile to anyone who migh be perceived as effeminate or gay???

      I take that as an insult…. I’m a proud gay male who is out and representing his own sexuality. Your clearly proved my point. All you see is my outer shell and came up with your own assumption as to HOW I am?

      You have totally missed the point, your just a Hater plain and simple. Your points make no sense, and as the smoke clears, its plain as day, you have a personal beef with Me. I wanted to do this scene, for exactly the reasons stated and some how you turned this into a piss on Diesel Washington comment war.

      This post was to spark Debate and get people to think just for a few seconds outside the realm of porn. And you just used this watered down Personal attack on Me for some reason..

      I know who this is..

      Your a “PUBIC Hater” a hater that stays on my nutsack like he was a pubic hair..so annoying..

      1. No, I didn’t prove your point, as you have taken two distinctly different stances in video.

        You basically like it both ways, you use stereotypes to your advantage(as you indicated, for white twink scenes), and discuss how you can’t get any work SIMULTANEOUSLY because of stereotypes. All you do is bitch, bitch, bitch.
        If white people are producing the porn, and the stereotypical shoots you do, then why are you in porn in the first place if it bothers you so much?

        Plus anyone who says “no” to you, and there have been quite a few instances recorded online, and all you can do is call those white twinks out as racist. Which is laughable, I’m sure Civil Rights leaders in the 60’s and 70’s were fighting for your cause, to be an uncle tom.

        I stopped reading this board, for the bullshit being spewed on here. And I won’t be visiting or coming endorse your crap online. You are irrelevant to people and will continue to be until you finally drop off radar. I can see why people would hire you, a person who has such a warm and nice personality! Erik Rhodes pegged you as such.

        1. Oh where do we begin, Just Sayin?
          Probably at basics.
          ‘Diesel Washington’ is a porn model (a very fine one in my estimation). He is paid to create different characters for the gratification of others.
          He provides that gratification by having sex on camera. Many people get off on that and it provides him with a livelihood. He is there to provide an ‘image’ of himself that brings in the bucks.I’m not sure what job you do, Just Sayin, but I’d predict that the public persona you project does not encompass the totality of your existence as a human being.
          The industry he’s in projects him as a specific type of man because that makes the industry and him money. This is a difficult concept for people to get their heads round, but there is remarkably little difference betwen the marketing ideas of Diesel Washington and Julie Andrews. Both of them piss, shit and lose their tempers. In Diesel Washington’s case, some people might want to see it and be prepared to pay the big bucks to see it. In Julie Andrews’ case, you’d be strung up from a streetlight for suggesting it.

          I’ve been a long-time fan of ‘Diesel Washington’ as a concept in gay porn. That’s to say I read his blog from time to time and find it immensely entertaining, intelligent and not afraid of ‘speaking truth to power’. I’ve actually seen very few of his sex scenes and I would never want to have sex with him – frankly, I’m so bad at sex that it would be the worst 87 seconds of both our lives.

          However, I could spend hours eating or drinking with him because he’s not stupid. He might say stupid things from time to time, but so does every other human being I’ve ever met. He has a point of view, he is wonderfully intelligent and he’s also incredibly intelligent – both in ‘porn model persona’ and in some of his unguarded ‘real life’ commentaries on modern life. He comes across as an interesting man – he’s not just a guy with a pretty face, a bunch of musles and a dick. Because I’ve not seen that much of his porn, I still think the sexiest aspect of this man is his brain and the way he uses it. It doesn’t matter what this man looks like in 20 years’ time – he is always going to have a sexy, intelligent, seductive attractiveness when it comes to how he uses his brain.

          I suspect from your comments above, Mr Washington might be ‘African-American’, ‘Black’, ‘Coloured’, ‘Negro’ or a bastardisation of the French ‘Nigre’. Leo Forte might be, also. He’s an amazingly attractive man, but as a pasty white Welsh-Irish mongrel, I could just be projecting an ethnicity on any good-looking man who has a smidgeon of skin pigmentation.

          These are two people from within the porn industry talking about something that clearly exists. You don’t even have to take their words for it – just look at some of the comments here.

          Two, good-looking men with confidence in their physical appearance have chosen a part-time job as a porn model. Do most of the commentators here have that much confidence in their own physical appearance to do the same? I suspect not.

          Oh God, I could go on for decades of argument and miles of internet argument. But I won’t.

          Most of the arguments against Washington and Forte are intellectial pablum.

          Washington, Forte and Mr Pam should be congratulated every step of the way of their victory parade around the block.

          Even if you, Just Sayin, don’t get it. This was important.

    2. “Very few black men bottom, because they view the bottom’s role as inferior and effeminate.”

      And you know this how? Please do not reply with some annoying tale that includes what your best black friend, hairdresser, maid, and/or trick told you.

      1. Look at the porn, look at the “thug” genre of porn. Every guy is STRAIGHT! NO HOMO! NO HOMO! I Ain’t no faggot! I don’t faggot shit– I don’t bottom!

        And then they have the bottom reduced to a “gay” role. Ugh.

        I want appeasement, I want some thuggish performer to take a gigantic white cock in the ass! Why Doesn’t Diesel consider going bottom for shoots? Cause he is arrogant, and thinks he is above it.

        1. “And then they have the bottom reduced to a ‘gay’ role. Ugh.”

          Sounds like the standard scenes from Corbin, Sean Cody, and Broke Straight Boys. But the bigger issue is you’re using gay porn as a mirror into black gay male sexuality. Strange and weird.

  28. I hope that as shown by the fact that Mr. Pam shot and showcased this conversation (and that Zach posted it) that every realizes how important this conversation actually is. The conversation is about more than gay porn, and can be extrapolated to other issues that non-white individuals face. The strongest point in this conversation is Diesel’s query of “What it means to be ‘All-American'”.

    1. Just open an abercrombie and fitch catalog or watch CW’s teen programing. You might see one black person on those shows or ads, and it usually isn’t someone from the inner-city. Those shows are about suburban life outside of the city, or upper classes within the city; Those shows don’t include inner-city blacks, because naturally those individuals aren’t exactly happy with their circumstances(and with good reason to). Entertainment will include minorities that live in suburbs. They are what some “blacks” would call a token. Someone to falsely appease racial inequalities which actually exist. In our culture, we create a false dichotomy of African Amerians, either they are Bill Cosby or TuPac, really ignoring the person who may diverge from those people.

      Whites are the majority, and have the most income and therefore will get catered to for marketing and promotional stuff. I don’t think porn applies to this argument because commercial advertising is non-existent, and also, as mentioned, interracial fetishes exist. On another note, I do know plenty of innercity blacks who use “faggot” in every other word and that to me is why I want no association with them. I don’t want to be a target of rage because of inequalities. And quite frankly, Diesel looks like those men, who use that term and are very hostile to anyone who might be perceived as effeminate or gay. I don’t like watching his porn for the reason he plays into that concept, and even quite possibly enjoys it.

      1. So because Diesel looks like “those men” he must be a homophobic inner city thug who uses the word “faggot” a lot? I’m just curious…do you watch any other black men in porn? Or do they all look like “inner city blacks” to you?

      2. The Other Devin

        I know plenty ‘inner-city blacks’ who happen to BE ‘faggots’. Myself included.

        It saddens me when ppl assume we blacks can’t be gays too. I see this among ppl of all races, btw, so don’t feel attacked unjustly, whitey.

  29. I find it refreshing to see adult film stars doing other things than fucking. Perhaps that’s just me being odd.

    1. Yeah, I know – was watching Mr. Washington talk, the whole time thinking – “oh, I’d love him to kiss me” and stuff like that. He has a great smile. :) As for the “All-American” question – true enough! African-Americans are just as “All-American” as anyone else, and I live next door to a very handsome black graduate student. So, you know, some people aren’t all closed off. The first time I went to bed with an African-American I was curious to see if it would be any different – it was, but it came from within me – being all uptight. After a while with that man, it was different only because of him (being so lovely).

  30. This is very good topic and I like the way Mr. Pam has chosen to bring some exposure to the topic. Personally, I like my porn diverse. One of my favorite brick and mortar studios is Lucas Enteratinment. Lucas has been diverse since day 1. Compare Lucas with Falcon, Channel 1 (anything from Chi Chi LaRue), Next Door, Active Duty, Hot House and so many more.

    The problem is most studios are run by yokels, who at one time achieved success more by luck and rarely by design. Of the companies mentioned, only Lucas appears to be thriving (thanks Mr. Pam) and the others are just hanging on for the sake of hanging on.

    While I give Diesel credit for rallying this cause, due to his credibilty, his effectiveness has been minimal. But, at least he has been consistent. Bottom line, fans have to demonstrate with their dollars, that diversity matters. Once other studios see that companies like Lucas Entertainment and Naked Sword continue survive in this era piracy, maybe they will change their ways. Additionally, ethnic themed companies like Dawgpound USA, Flava Works have carved out a niche, while not diverse, at least feature men of color.

    Bottom line, it’s just a waste of time trying to get studios like Falcon and Active Duty to diversify their casting. Companies that only cast white guys reflect the personal taste and prejudices of their owners. As evidenced by the state of their companies, Chi Chi LaRue, Dink Flamingo and the other owners have a narrow view of gay porn and their customers.

    We’ll leave it to Mr. Pam and a couple of others directors to lead the way of showcasing that hot models and great porn comes in all shades.

    1. An issue I have with this “Behind the scenes look”, is the premise behind it: is what is it’s main intent? Is it to “elevate” the porn genre or just try to justify it’s use of the stereotypes discussed? I would think the latter, since the clip that follows is a smaller white twink, and an aggressive black top.

      I would hope that people who feel passionately about this issue wouldn’t buy this video, out a being duped, because of a pseudo interview, produced by the same people, justifying it’s distribution.

  31. Thanks for bringing this to light Zach, this is a real issue in the industry. Unfortunately black men have almost become a fetish in gay porn, where the only sites that feature more than one black actor are the ones that use it as their business model like Thughunter or NDEbony (apparently my “next door male” can’t be black, they need their own site). The others might throw a token black or two: Titan, Hothouse, Sean Cody, Colt, Corbin Fisher, ALL Jake Cruise sites…

    The social ramification of this is that people will either specifically look for blacks in their real sex life ala, “I just want a big black cock in me” or go the other extreme and emulate what they see in porn and say, “No blacks or asians please”.

    I applaud TimTales for featuring many black actors and not labeling it as “hot interracial” or “thug love”.

  32. Wow, this was actually documentary worthy haha! It is definitely a conversation that hasn’t really been had other than on internet message boards. The lack of black actors in pornography is a bit more glaring when you look at most of the internet studios; which is this point is basically everyone; but I’m talking about SC, CF, Chaos, CD, CB, and even RB. Let’s just say it’s not just lack of quantity of black men that are featured on these sites. Sometimes it appears they are going for a certain type as well. And it’s not “angry black top.” You see the abt stereotype more with mainstream studios.

    I don’t think the lack of black actors is completely the fault of the studios. I think a lot of it has to do with clientele as well; I’ve seen some VERY nasty comments when studios branch out. I feel the racial diversity in porn is a reflection on certain views on race in the gay community. But the studios could at least attempt to feature more black performers; despite the racists. And perhaps when they do they can embrace and celebrate the fact that they are adding diversity to their team rather than present it as a concession or appeasement.

    And I like Diesel Washington more after having seen this.

  33. Diversity is fine but always been a lack of both black and latin gay porn stars. The all black cast videos are horrible. They have extremely feminine bottoms almost like drag queens. I love latin guys but hate all latin casts. I want to see a white boy thrown in the mix. IMO, gay porn is always the hottest when opposites attract. For example: Older hairy guys fucking young smooth twinks. Black guys fucking white guys. White guys fucking latin guys. The most boring gay porn is when performers are “book ends” and look just like eachother and do a flip fuck scene. How come there are no masculine black guys that bottom? It seems they only TOP. Sure there are black bottoms but extremely queeny ones.
    On another note, would love to see Diesel perform for one of those kink websites. I see him being a good performer there.

    1. There are big muscular bottoms, just not in mainstream porn. DawgpoundUSA for ex has Sarge, lil guy, and Rogue

    2. Luke, you’ve heard of Race Cooper right? He’s black, he’s masculine, and generally bottoms for the most part.

      1. race cooper is one of the few decent gay porn stars, who happen to be black. I think he has the right attitude and no ego. Loves sex, and is versatile. Ideally the right combination of things for a hot performer.

  34. As a black man i do care about this issue..just not in porn…i’m more interested in our black men in professional mainstream business settings… not fucking for a living… porn does NOT elevate our black men so as initially stated NO CARES..but for those in this industry all should be included so that will means more to FUCK..LoL

    1. exactly! ya racism in porn is an issue but its PORN. this isn’t a business founded on morality and equal opportunity. wtf do people expect? if anything, bitching MORE about “equal rights” in porn, as opposed to equal rights in society, just sets back the gay “community” even more cuz it makes us look like all we care about is sex, sex, sex, sex, sex. We bitch about not being able to walk around nude or dressed like leather freaks and the fact that we can’t have orgies in the street without the moral majority ‘persecuting’ us.

      In college, matthew sheperd’s mom spoke to our school and made a great point: gays won’t be taken seriously until they stop hyper-sexualizing everything. sex is fun, it’s fine, i’m no prude. but why the fuck do we put all our eggs into this basket? all it is going to do is make society associate gay people with BUTT SEX and there is so much more to us than that. say what the fuck u want but u know its true

      1. “We bitch about not being able to walk around nude or dressed like leather freaks and the fact that we can’t have orgies in the street without the moral majority ‘persecuting’ us.”

        You must not read anything outside of gay porn blogs. The people fighting DOMA have said nothing about “leather freaks.”

  35. The Other Devin

    I completely agree w/them. I suspect studios and producers sometimes hide their own preferences and prejudices behind “what the audience wants”. But I also think audiences are full of preferences and prejudices of their own. LOL I’m glad Diesel and Leo seem to have a good attitude about it all.

  36. Because as a whole mainstream gays are not attracted to darker skinned black men (or asians for that matter). Look no further than adam4adam and you can see the exclusions. No fat, fem, old, asian, or black. All things you will find in particular fetish porn, but not in your run of the mill aspirational hottie porn. It’s a sad fact, but a reality.

    1. Reed, as a black man who dates primarily interracially, there are plenty of White men who date exclusively black men and there are plenty of A4A ads where the poster prefers black men. Sure, I may resent a person’s ad who says, “No blacks,” but I’m not going to jump to the conclusion that he’s automatically a racist. Everyone is entitled to their preferences and things don’t always have to become a societal issue.

      1. You’re just proving my point. I’ve met a lot of self loathing black and asian men that only want white guys and want nothing to do with their own races sexually. There are white guys that have fetishes strictly for black men or asians. In general, the majority of all gays tend to skew towards white guys and white guys tend to be the most interested in their own race. There’s plenty of data to back this up. OKcupid trends has data that shows that black men are the most likely of all races to respond to other races, but the least likely to be responded to by other races.

        1. Yea, well I’ve met plenty of “self-loathing” Black men who date ONLY Black men, so you’re point is? I’ve about had it with constant cries of “racism” where there isn’t any. No one is obligated to like you simply because you’re Black. People are entitled to date who they’re attracted to, and Black Men certainly prove that point every day with Black-only this and Afro-Centric that. 95 percent of the Black Men I encounter date ONLY Black or Blatino. Give us just a small break already.

          1. You can tell who the real racists are.
            They make up false statistics(95%), they project(Black only) and they mis-represent other peoples actions(Afro-centric when they are clearly invited to these sites and events).

      2. Derek as a black man you should know the deference between out right bigotry and preferences.. Liking some one due to their skin color is not a preference its racism… I am sorry to inform you but anyone who thinks its ok to not sleep with someone because of their skin color is racist… No they may not go out yelling at black or Asian men or any men of a minority. How is it ok to tell someone that they are less than a white gay man because they are in fact not white. When will our community realize that splitting ourselves up by appearance isn’t helping anyone.. It hurting the community as a whole. I would love to think that my being black had to relevance to wanting to date or be attracted to be but honestly i am tired of seeing NO BLACKS <– this was on just about everything over 30 years ago… Do you see my point.. NO BLACK ASIANS ECT is like a store putting up the same things… Also if you are not black and you say to someone who is "i have always wanted to be with a black guy" <— this is equally insulting… I am not nor will i ever be a mystical creature that you have to seek out..

    2. i would have to disagree. The no fat, no fem part is true, but everything else is bullshit. I’m a black homosexual, and everytime i log on to that particular site. White guys are always hitting me up. I get more hits from white guys then black guys. I think its a trend, that is never goin out of style. i go to go to gay clubs in atlanta, and all you see is white guys following around black men all night long. its uncanny. its like all of a sudden we’re in high demand.

  37. The answer is clear. Racism exists in every community, even the gay community. Porn Stars like Diesel Washington, who I wouldn’t mind bending over for (as long as he went easy on me) are typecast in the “thug” role meanwhile a light skinned mixed boy like Austin Wilde doesn’t get typecast at all, because he’s lighter, and not as menacing.

    1. Untrue. King Dingo and Phat Daddy were both light skinned and they were typecast.

      Of course, no white performer would be named King Dingo or Phat Daddy, regardless of the size of his dick.

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