Two weeks ago, I posted Koons’ photos from a recent party (and by “party” I mean bareback orgy in a bar), prompting one commenter to write: “Great, lets perpetuate high risk unsafe sex while everyone is at a bar drunk! HIV is so damn sexy!” First of all, no one was drunk. They were stoned.
Joking! Who knows what, if anything, they were on? And who are we to pass judgment? (That said, please pass judgment; I like reading your comments).
Anyways, Cory Koons would like to clarify just what in fact was being “perpetuated” that night. It wasn’t the spread of HIV and unsafe sex, but rather the personal choice to do whatever you want with your body. He writes to The Sword:
I am not promoting HIV transmission or irresponsible behavior. I am promoting the right for an individual to decide what they want to to do with their body without persecution or judgment. It has always been my assumption that faggots and queers have fought for the right to do what they want with their bodies, therefore it seems very hypocritical to me that these same faggots and queers chastise each other for what they deem to be unsuitable sexual practices.
Then again, according to the gay community-at-large, all I am is an HIV-spreading sociopath.
It is impossible for me to relate to a community that fights for the right to engage in religious ceremony based on misogynistic property ownership, a community that fights for the supposed individual’s rights, that then turns to their brothers to tell them what they should or shouldn’t do when they fuck.
Related:
“My Biggest Regret Is That He Only Came Inside Me Once.”
Hi Guys,
This particular topic as brought out feelings about barebacking. There was a point in my life where I was actively involved in PNP and bathhouse fun. Well, all that took a toll on my body. Not only that but the guys I used to hang out in this environment have all died. This stressed me out and I isolated myself from the gay world for about 3 years. Things took a turn for the better. My health started improving, and no longer needed meds. I agree with charle’s post that most people with HIV die either from drug, or alcohol abuse, or both. That’s what my friends died of. If there’s anything I’ve learned from my party years is to learn from others that are no longer here. I have a lot more appreciation of life. Don’t get me wrong, I still party every once in a while and go to a sex party. Lets not forget this is a free society (at least for now), and we have our own decisions and roads that we take in life.
Are you paying for your own meds, Cory?
Do what you want with our body. It’s when you take your body and infect others with death that crosses the line. And seriously, these bareback films are simply snuff films. You pay to watch these guys have a good time now but know that sometime soon they will be dead…a direct result of their actions. Frankly I wouldn’t care much except for the health care costs that this insanity perpetrates.
Sure fine no worry about, I let know to me I easy need anyway those with HIV. Never cry people but to feel sorry for you when is try bear the it ready, your keep it .
no Problem it .
Sure, go ahead, do whatever the f*ck you want, you’re going to anyway……and consequently….you will reap what you so …..I will never understand the reasoning behind barebacking, especially those with HIV. You run the risk of getting re-infected, mixing strains and therefore becoming resistant……don’t look for any shoulders to cry on or people to feel sorry for you when you try to bear the woe is me cross…..get down off of it already, you’re going to need to burn the wood to keep warm this winter when your t-cells are low and you can’t even get up to shit or wipe your ass…..you get what you deserve….
I just don’t understand much of this. If you are neg, like myself, choose to stay that way by assuming everyone else is poz & or hep C & only play safe. Let others do what they like, you don’t know their circumstances. If you are neg and bb you won’t be that way for long & when not if you sero-convert, its your own fault, not the “bad guy who didn’t tell me & gave it to me”. That guy choose not to know himself or thought if you are BBing you are also poz or choose to be so soon. Bottom line, you are responsible for your own health.
This is about the sickest exchange of words I have ever seen. Don’t want HIV? Abstain from exercising your basic human nature. You choose to live in fear and trust no one? What the fuck makes you think I want to hear about it? This is the sound of a bunch of people intoxicated by fear. I personally no longer have any fear and I no longer mistrust any of my brethren, well, except for some of you frightened howlers on this page. I touch joy and pleasure, shamelessly and freely. As if the sickening exchange here is going to do anything for anyone. Life is rough. Shut the Fuck Up and live it.
Wow, for someone who doesn’t want to ‘hear about it’ why the hell are you reading the comments?
you’re sickened by people that find unsafe sex not cool…
Um no one said those w/HIV and AIDS should be celibate. I don’t live in fear but choose to live responsibly. As a someone HIV+, I don’t want other strains of the virus and don’t want to have to take more meds. Why would I even dare spread this incurable disease on someone else? What’s truly frightening is the cuts in government spending due to the recession of subsidized AIDS meds.
A simple solution to a complex problem: Assume EVERYONE including yourself IS POZ then at least you might be RIGHT instead of maybe being WRONG and stop passing judgment because that is the real diseases. No matter how you feel about bareback sex it IS a natural and normal behavior and only due to 30 years of this public health crisis have we been telling 3 (going on 4) generations of gay women and men that covering your privates MIGHT stop hiv infection. Societies view has shifted to the unnatural extreme of preventing body fluids from mixing. Remember, YOU CAN GET HIV FROM: saliva mixing (kissing) and fellatio sex (MM/MF/FF), vaginal sex (MF/FF), tears as well as semen and blood, but everyone skips that reminder now-days~NOT JUST male/male butt sex. HIV is NOT an easily transmitted infection compared to the Swine Flu or common cold for examples! The most common reason someone dies (AND THEY STILL DO) to hiv is now due to drug (including smoking) and alcohol abuse further reducing the immune system not hiv infection directly in Western countries! Men are genetically wired to pass on there genes: so 30 years of prevention has back-fired psychologically for some and socially for others where men are condemned (condom pun intended) for trying to do the equivalent of procreating except when M/F for pregnancy is the goal. THAT’S FUCKED UP!
Please give us a single (A SINGLE!) instance of HIV being shared through kissing.
It’s all about degrees of Safer Sex to me. There is not such thing as safe sex. The person earlier on who wrote: “With condoms, I don’t worry about HIV status and can treat all my brothers the same” this attitude is the dangerous one due the reliance on condoms instead of informed risk! Condoms can break, have holes etc. and are only 80% effective in pregnancy prevention which is what they were designed to prevent in the first place…as to the challenge by Dillion: Although several reports of there being at least one documented case of HIV infection via kissing which is referred to in may journal articles from a case study; non of these has a source for the original study so I am assuming for now that it has become a medical myth. Still see below: (and to another point I think this shows how HARD HIV is to transmit.)
“Guidelines for Effective School Health Education To Prevent the Spread of AIDS” via CDC Wonder
MMWR 37(S-2);1-14
Publication date: 01/29/1988
“Although no transmission from deep, open-mouth (i.e., “French”) kissing has been documented, such kissing theoretically could transmit HIV from an infected to an uninfected person through direct exposure of mucous membranes to infected blood or saliva.”
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Your questions answered via http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Hiv_By_Kissing
Can I get HIV from kissing?
No one has ever gotten HIV from shaking hands, hugging or kissing on the cheek.
Kissing, including open-mouth kissing, is also thought to be safe.
Source:
National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
HIV infection and AIDS: an overview.
October 2007. Available at http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/hivinf.htm (accessed on 3 August 2009).
* HIV doesn’t live in saliva. Lots of research has been done to find out whether HIV lives in saliva. If someone has HIV in their saliva, it has probably come from blood in their mouth. In one study, researchers looked at the saliva from 79 men with AIDS. Only one of the men had HIV in his saliva, and it probably came from blood in his mouth. This man had some sores in his mouth and throat. And the amount of HIV in his saliva was 10,000 times less than the amount in his blood.
* Saliva may kill HIV. Researchers think that the chemicals in saliva kill HIV.
There’s a very small chance that you could get HIV from open-mouth kissing. This can only happen if you kiss someone who has the virus when one or both of you has sores or cuts in your mouth.
I loe reading this type of crap.
Bareback sex=infection of STDS it is the simple truth…. It feels great but in the end when your number comes up….
HIV can be stopped if we use condoms.. But who cares right get yourself infected then hope to god you have health insurance.. After all it is only one pill a day at 47$ a pill and a grand every other month for your labs… Then fall in love with a man who is negative that is smart enough not to want to be with you…
But hell it sure felt good at the moment…… Oh and for you nasty trolls who get off watching us young guys infect eachother… Forget it you are not even worth the skin you are in
IDIOTS
His answer is stupid but it contains a grain of truth.
First, the stupidity: like smoking or taking drugs, having bareback sex -especially in a promiscuous environment like the orgy in a bar- is a behaviour at risk, in the sense that exposes you at a higher probability of contracting related diseases. People who like these things are free to do them, BUT if they have a public profile (public enough to be recognized and have a post dedicated to them in a high-volume blog, for example) and are seen/caught in the act, they MUST accept that someone tells them “look, you are doing something that damages your health and, because you are “famous”, you give a bad example”.
the grain of truth is that sometimes the reaction gets the tone of a crusade. It’s exactly like for smoking (at least in US, from what I know). If you do such things, then you are a bad guy all over, someone to avoid and to emarginate. In the case of HIV it’s even more subtle and destroying because it can happen that a person who is positive gets a social stigma with it because of possible past actions of his.
Prudery does not help, informing does.
Let me update my previous post.
Koons AND ‘seaguy’ are losers. Thanks!
I’d be a looser if my posts amounted to nothing more than name calling and made no contribution to the discussion. Your from Canada which may not be as supportive of a live and let live society where what one does in the bedroom is their own business, not yours or anyone elses.
Really? That’s the best response you have?
1. if you truly believed in live and let live you would not have answered my post, as you would feel very strongly in my right to speak my piece.
2. what Cory does in his own bedroom, or you, is your business. No one here has said you should or can be stopped making risky or stupid choices. However, Cory decided to make a pronouncement, and a stupid one at that. He decided he’d be Joe Cool and talk about rights, when his rights are not being removed in any way shape or form. no, he was called out on his shit, but that’s what happens when you take to a forum with an opinion like his.
3. ‘Your posts do nothing more than name call and add nothing to the discussion.’ Did you not reread your post? You said, and I quote: ‘It’s usually lonely pathetic queens who rant and rave against bareback’. Hypocrite much?
Just because you don’t care about the spread of a life altering disease doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t. And that has less to do with being Canadian and more to do with trying to be a decent human being. You might want to try it sometime.
Thank you Cory for coming out and making a statement rather then letting bloggers and others speak for you. People may not like what you do or say but at the very least you had the balls to come out and say it. And not hide behind the scenes.
I for one have always liked you in movies and on your blog and will not change. I will watch your movies as long as you make em, I’d watch you carve a turkey with a butter knife.
Saying proudly spreading AIDS and other diseases does take balls.
It’s usually lonely pathetic queens who rant and rave against bareback et al they are just like the anti abortion zealots sticking their nose where it don’t belong in other people’s business and bedrooms.
I applaud Cory for making this statement. America is still a free country last I checked!
Please, stop making this about an attack on people who are HIV+. it is not. it is about one man who is glorifying an act that puts people at risk, not only for HIV but for other STIs as well. Most HIV + people I know have a very healthy attitude towards safer sex. They know first hand that HIV and AIDS are not things one, with half a brain, would ever want to share with someone else.
Of course Koons can bareback all he wants. He shouldn’t, but he can. But to celebrate it the way he does is equivalent to someone pushing the wonderful buzz of crack or heroine. They think they are more interesting, clever, or cool than other people. In truth they are simple losers.
Koons is a loser.
If it’s “our right” to do what we want with our body (as a majority of all barebackers claim) then I suppose they should support the government’s right (as well as the right of all the people who donate MILLIONS of dollars every year to HIV/AIDS) to stop funding the mechanism that allows people to be so callous. Every state in our country is cutting HIV/AIDS services due to the overwhelming costs while HIV infections continue to spread……if every gay male barebacker who screams “it’s our right” had no way to get their meds that keep them alive I bet we would be hearing a whole other story coming from them. Remember the 80’s and early 90’s?? AIDS isn’t pretty folks when you don’t have access to something that sustains life. Maybe it is time to “cut the strings” and force people to grow up.
My “buddy” and I were both adolescents in the 1970’s when discovering anal sex that he had “seen” in a pornographic publication; he said he had seen how it was done. This is why I changed my mind about my previous comment in the previous story. Doing bareback between two honest, consenting adults is one thing, but taking photos, stating it was bareback, and publishing it [to the web] is another. Despite safeguards, my buddy was able to view porn as an adolescent, and I am certian that some adolescents will view these photos and get the wrong idea as they won’t understand STDs, and for that matter,won’t know as I didn’t even know what a condom was at the time, but if the porn had shown my buddy, perhaps we would have known sooner. Not that there were any problems, but I wouldn’t want there to be any problems for anyone else who couldn’t be expected to know [adolescents]. Although there are safeguards on today’s internet porn, I fail to think they are any more effective than in the 1970’s. I state this because all STD’s are a much bigger inconvience than condom use, and condom use dramatically reduces the chance of STD transmission.
If all of you are as motivated by the welfare of people and the way they impact others then why is your language so mean-spirited and vitriolic? Why do you dehumanize HIV positive people? You treat the condition as punishment of inappropriate sexual behavior. To my knowledge most anti-HIV activists see such an attitude extremely harmful.
Some of you, like Estelle, say that people are uninformed of how bad the consequences really are. That may be true and I’m all for more information. However, I have seen (elsewhere) a lot of posts by people who have been HIV positive for a long time, and what they seem to crave most is that people would stop treating them like lepers.
I think I have said what I have to say and apologize in advance for possible grammar mistakes. If your real goal is fighting HIV and not being cruel to people when you can mask it as righteous indignation – then try more compassion. It may work wonders.
Cory Koons says “according to the gay community-at-large, all I am is an HIV-spreading sociopath”
The dictionary defines sociopath as follows: “a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.”
Conclusion: guilty as charged.
I`m not going to accuse anyone of deliberately spreading HIV, what would be the point. I can`t help it as I am from the era when AIDS started and the real witch hunts were going on. The older wiser, still healthy part of me wants to try to impress on people that with we have come so far in the fight against this disease, why risk going back there, for what? A condom? Don`t give me the “My right to choose” CRAP!!! How about the right to act responsibly, not just for your self but for your partners, friends, fuckbuddies and others who love you. Yeah you have the right to choose what to do with your body, that`s a given, but you will also expect me to pay for your healthcare and drugs when you get sick??? I don`t think so. Stop being an asshole and put on a condom…
Condoms are great whether you are poz or negative. Why? Because sexual apartheid sucks. I want to have sex with the men I find a connection with, and sometimes they are positive sometimes they are negative. The great thing is it doesn’t matter to me because with safer sex we can still have a good time.
With condoms, I don’t worry about HIV status and can treat all my brothers the same. Serosorting is ineffective and teaches us to treat each other as pariahs – that’s not a formula for a good community. While certain companies (drug and porn) are profiting from all this, it’s our community health and our sense of brotherhood that pay the price.
What more, HIV is hardly the only STD. You don’t want any of them, especially if you have a compromised immune system. While condoms don’t stop all STD’s they do reduce the risks. And things like Hep C are pretty unfun, generally cannot be cured and pretty common among HIV positive barebackers. I wonder why? (Hint: Hep C blood coming into contact with the urethra during rough fucking.)
Being healthier means having more sex and more fun. It’s that fucking simple. Be responsible for yourself and others, and we’ll all have better sex lives.
And yes, I’m asking that we as a community actually take responsibility for our actions and the messages we send to the newer members of our community who may not know better. It’s great to talk about personal responsibility and freedom, but we all do better if we give enough of a fuck to take care of each other and set good examples.
People act like condoms take away their freedom. They don’t. They give it. With safer sex I’m free to have sex who I want to without worrying. That’s real sexual freedom.
BRAVO!!! The most appropriate and responsible post I have ever read on this constantly debated topic.
“You want to promote the right for an individual to do with their body as they’d like? Fine. Promote the right for them pay every cent of antiretroviral therapy they’d need if they contract HIV. Promote the right for them to completely self-fund oncologist consultations, chemo, and radiation if they also end up with Hodgkin’s disease, etc., etc. ”
Amen! The idea that these idiots are not affecting the communiuty is ludicrous. And the last time I looked, mean time to HAART failure was something less than 20 years, so that’s something to look forward to I guess. Average life expectancy from estimated HIV diagnosis (in the US with unfettered access to medical care) = 22 years. Average cost per individual? Around $500,000.
“I so agree! It’s like one must chop off their dick once they get HIV.”
No need to be so drastic, I’d settle for sackcloth, ashes, and a bell.
^ Sorry, average lifetime cost per individual is around $500,000.
Good God!!!! The average cost in todays dollars is about half a million.
Cory Koons is an idiot. ’nuff said.
“I am promoting the right for an individual to decide what they want to to do with their body without persecution or judgment.”
You want to promote the right for an individual to do with their body as they’d like? Fine. Promote the right for them pay every cent of antiretroviral therapy they’d need if they contract HIV. Promote the right for them to completely self-fund oncologist consultations, chemo, and radiation if they also end up with Hodgkin’s disease, etc., etc.
In as much as you support an individual’s unrestricted right to use their body, I’d expect you to bear full responsibility for any resulting consequences. Otherwise, you are not an adult exercising free will, but merely a self-absorbed, entitled ass.
“It is impossible for me to relate to a community that fights for the right to engage in religious ceremony based on misogynistic property ownership…”
Oh, I’m so damn sorry I don’t view everything through the lens of an anthropologist. There are plenty of practical benefits to marriage. None of us deserve to spend excessive amounts of money just to set a power of attorney that will transcend state lines. Marriage is the easiest, cheapest contract to achieve such means. Has it ever occurred to that we just want these practical benefits? Why must you assume we are so desperate to partake in a religious ceremony?
Why do I so readily “chastise” you for what I deem “unsuitable sexual practices”? In case you haven’t noticed, we’re quite a marginalized group. Most of our struggles are due to external bigotry; in addition to the above discussion of marriage, issues like youth outreach/suicide prevention come to mind. HIV/AIDS transmission, however, is something we can mostly manage on our own. Unfortunately, we still devote a hell of a lot of money and time to HIV/AIDS prevention and management; despite this, transmission continues at rates that will require future time and resources for management.
I hope you’re at least happy you get to do to your fucking body as you please.
Beyond my looks, money, and personality, there’s nothing sexier that being a human petri dish for sexually transmitted diseases.
With all the time I spend dieting and going to the gym, I’m grateful that I have the right to choose gay sex as it was meant to be: without a condom.
I choose condom-less sex because it feels simply feel better. As a bottom, my ass is sensitive enough where I find a condom-covered penis unexciting. I’m not sure whether I’m positive or negative nor do I care. It would be a relief when I test positive. It seems like everyone I know is positive anyway. I too would like to take steroids and other meds to bulk myself up. Another friend who has AIDS has these amazing cheekbones thanks to the virus. Carrying condoms is such a hassle especially when the action is so hot at the local bath houses and sex clubs. Who has time to bother? When a guy uses rubbers, it’s probably a sign that he doesn’t want to PNP (party and play). Bareback sex with substances especially crystal, poppers, pot, and other stuff really puts sex on a whole other level. As a 19 year old, I’ll probably take meds when I get AIDS. I’ll just have to deal with that instead of lame condoms. It’s my body and I choose to have a good time. The consequences of bareback sex and getting HIV are so minimal compared to the good time by natural sex.
Dear God…. please tell me your joking
Taggart Wilde YOU said it! You’re amazing.
Chris J. YOU are sick in the head man. “As someone positive, it was a sense of relief when I became poz. I didn’t need to worry about using a condom anymore.” WOW buddy. I give you 5 years at the most.
Please read this article about porn star Tim Kelly, look at the costs of these medications and then ask yourself is it really worth it.
“I agree with him. The amount of judgmentality and contempt for people who ie. are promiscuous or take risks is puzzling, especially coming from people who belong to are persecuted minority themselves and seem to be well aware of the life style and career moves of the porn stars they so despise.”
A false and stupid comparison. The last time I checked the GLBT movement had zero to do with being sexually irresponsible. Maybe the “contempt” and “judgment” is coming from people who watched their friends die a slow, excruciating and painful death. Maybe it is coming from people who saw their friends treated like the scum of the earth as they lay dying or saw the healthy vibrant person they knew slowly deteriorate physically and mentally. Maybe it is from people who have known how to prevent this disease for 30 years and have tried in vain to educate their fellow gay men about the horrors of this disease and knowing how extremely PREVENTABLE, yet what they say is falling on deaf ears because they see the young, happy, and vibrant models (who are just models and HIV negative) that are always featured in the HIV meds ads and think “that can be me too”. No one seems to care or acknowledge that HIV meds have serious and chronic side affects or that they WILL eventually stop working.
Not to mention that HIV isn’t the only thing you can catch barebacking. As someone who has had painful anal warts surgically removed if barebacking was worth it. Or someone who has gone through treatments for anal cancer who now has to wear a bag for the rest of their lives, or someone who has to take valtrex for the remainder of their days. Ask someone with full blown AIDS and HIV what it does to their immune systems and the kinds of health issues that come up, was it worth it? Or ones that can’t get hired, are mysteriously let go in a “at will state”, or the ones that can’t get health insurance, struggle to keep the coverage they have, or are literally fighting with their company every month to get something covered.
“. The last time I checked the GLBT movement had zero to do with being sexually irresponsible”
Ask anyone who opposes it and they will say it has everything to do with it. For some people it is “sexually irresponsible” to sleep with anyone except your married spouse.
I’m all for educating people. I actually was under the impression that most often people do know these things but they choose to have bb sex anyway, because yes, it is worth it in their opinion. As long as they don’t deliberately infect others (which I believe is a felony in many countries, in mine certainly is) I believe it is their choice to make. As is drinking, smoking, speeding, being overweight, extreme sports and whatever else things people do for the pleasure they find for it.
Really? Individual rights doesn’t mean you can cough or sneeze at someone simply because you can. Individual rights also entails that you don’t infringe the rights of others. If someone positive doesn’t want multiple strains of the virus, she or he is entitled to do so just as someone who is negative would like to maintain being free of AIDS. If you’re negative do you really want AIDS? If you’re positive do you really want to infect someone else or ompromise your immune system with other diseases?
It’s also really tacky when so many gays are fighting for the right to marriage to equate it with only outmoded notions of property. That kind of myopic thinking isn’t going to get very far. If you think you can have condom-less sex without any consequences like it’s 1976, good luck with that. I’d love to be like Betty White and see my 80s.
Didn’t realize how disgustingly naive gay men can still be in this age. If you’re positive, you’re going to die from it. Period. You may live another 5 years or 50 years, but this is going to kill you.
PERIOD.
Now, if you want to bareback, go ahead. Don’t ever lie about it, don’t act as though it isn’t dangerous and don’t have sex with someone negative who doesn’t know you’re positive.
All that aside, do whatever you want. Just stay the fuck away from me.
Legend – as a recently diagnosed hiv+ man, I hate to break it to you but YOU are the one that is naive. But I don’t fault you…..most online sites offer a basic “negative”, “ask me”, or the kiss of death if you have a moral compass and are honest “poz”. Remember too, it is the negative guys that refer to us virally enhanced due to someone else’s lying (many of us any way) as “diseased”. Sure as hell hope you don’t have high blood pressure or diabetes as you are then diseased as well.
Read thebody.com and get educated…most that are on the newer meds like me will die of old age, not AIDS or the 20 or so AIDS-related diseases. FACT. For those that are regime adherence and live a healthy lifestyle ( that means exercise and good nutrition) there is more and more growing evidence of old age death, nor your opinion of hiv+.
Yes, I engage in “unsafe” raw sex…with an ex partner that said he was negative….and over time and when I broke it off found out he just said that because he had no symptoms. After I shared my news with him as his ex-bf and sex partner, he changed to “ask me” and then disappeared. My close circle of friends and even a few former play buds were shocked that I as hiv+…and I have a strong moral compass so guys do know…online profile or if face to face.
Chances are good you have herpes and even HPV if you are a bottom….and don’t even know it, have no symptoms, etc.
Do the rest of the community a favor – get educated else you stay a “Legend” in your own mind.
Fact HIV meds are VERY EXPENSIVE. Fact many assistance programs are being cut to the bare bones across the US and many men are on a waiting list to get some kind of relief. Even then the out of pocket costs are NOT CHEAP. Fact we are in a awful recession that is not showing signs of letting up, ask the gay men who are unemployed how easy it is to AFFORD HIV meds, ask them how much it costs to maintain COBRA coverage, ask them about getting insurance elsewhere with a preexisting condition, and finally ask them how eager is someone to hire someone who is HIV+ (yes I know discrimination is illegal but the at will employment laws that many states have made discrimination easier w/out actually “discriminating”. Fact high blood pressure can be reversed, FACT what it costs to treat diabetes and high blood pressure is only a fraction of what it costs to do the HIV medication regimen. Fact no diabetic or blood pressure medication has the side effects that HIV meds have nor do they cause anywhere near the longterm internal damage that the current regimen does.
Fact only 20% of the U.S. has genital herpes so no chances are that you don’t have the herpes virus. Fact virtually all new HSV2 (genital herpes) infections will show up anywhere from 2-21 days after infection. Fact most HPV infections clear up on their own but that is not the case of someone with a COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEM. Fact your chances of the cancer causing strand of HPV actually turning into cancer (anal cancer) greatly increases with a compromised immune system.
FACT USING A CONDOM DRAMATICALLY REDUCES YOUR CHANCES OF CONTRACTING A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE.
The only thing I can add to Estelle’s beautifully written response is that FACT: If you’re paying out of pocket for your Aids meds, you’re paying in general area of $2,250.00 Per month, just to stay alive. Just to stay alive. How many of you have an additional $2,250.00 bucks laying around at the end of the month when everything else is paid for? And yes, the state programs are being cut, and yes there are now waiting lists of months in many states and getting longer each and every month. And each and every month you don’t have your meds, the virus begins coming back, AND, at a faster pace. And then suddenly, you begin slow getting susceptible to all sorts of opportunistic infections.
I can not believe that after what this community went through in the 80’s that we have retreated to and are represented by the ignorance for which some speak here in this room.
Bug chasers. It’s insane.
For whatever the reason, this forum system is not recognizing monetary values in the thousands of dollars. It also did the same in a post below as well. The dollar amount I referenced above for a month supply of antiviral HIV drugs was two thousand two hundred and fifty dollars – not the $,250.00 that was published. I sincerely hope that this has not mislead anyone here about the outrageous cost of these medications – most especially the crazy mother fuckers that think getting HIV is a relief and a gift.
Diabetes and High Blood Pressure aren’t communicable. If I had either of these, I still wouldn’t be a threat to anyone else. But, yes, even these diseases would contribute to my death.
HIV makes you a threat. Take care of yourself and be honest about your condition. I won’t go into your past or how you contracted the disease or judge any of your behaviour. Like I said before, do whatever you want; just stay the fuck away from me.
And yes that’s my real name. Let’s not resort to childish back-handed euphemisms.
It’s very simple: people are responsible for themselves. Bareback, use a condom, shove a traffic cone inside yourself – what a person does is their business alone. Anyone using the “HIV is expensive and affects everyone” argument should write to Congress to recriminalize sodomy & keep DOMA in force. Either we want freedom or we don’t; it’s not “freedom” when there’s an artificial morality imposed. Adults should behave as adults, which means those who are HIV-negative are just as responsible for discussing medical status as those who are positive. (Neg guys seem to think it’s a one-way responsibility, which is wrong.) The recent blogging over adult performers’ HIV status & pesonal lives is disgusting – just becuase they have sex on film doesn’t mean they have given up all privacy. What they do off camera should be none of our business.
FYI, of course I’m talking about behavior among consenting, fully aware adults. I don’t condone any kind of abuse as I’ve been the recipient of it before – 4 years ago I was given rohypnol and taken advantage of by 3 guys at a party. As I was newly out and very concerned about STDs, I always used condoms. Nonetheless, hours of bareback abuse from 3 strangers gave me HIV. I’m way past being bitter or angry, except with judgmental fags who treat me with contempt because they presume that anyone HIV-positive is disgusting and irresponsible. I tell my story as a reminder that the world isn’t so simple. Think before casting dispersions, opt for kindness. We struggle with enough moral hatred at who we are, we don’t need to add more!
So you’re not using condoms now because you were raped years ago? That sounds more like recreating an unfortunate trauma. If this was even true, you’d truly realize how expensive being positive really is.
Don’t let those condom Nazis tell you what to do! I can do what I want with my very own body. As someone positive, it was a sense of relief when I became poz. I didn’t need to worry about using a condom anymore. It really does feel better swallowing, get hopefully multiple loads in my mouth and ass, and fucking free style. With medication, HIV/AIDS isn’t deadly anymore. It’s more like diabetes which is a manageable medical condition that takes maintenance. We’re fighting for the right to get married and openly serve in the military. Why enslave us with latex? I can raise a family and fight for my country as a person with AIDS. No one really dies any more from the disease. No one cares if you have it. It’s like the modern day chicken pox. Most if not all gay men have it or will eventually. So you’re going tell a couple with AIDS not to bareback each other. Get real! That’s not going to happen. Sex is natural without a condom plain and simple. Putting a bag over your cock doesn’t necessarily make you a better person.
You’re a fucking idiot! I would explain to you all the reasons as to why you are an idiot, but you probably don’t have that much time.
Un-fucking-believable.
Your a fucking retard! No one dies from this anymore? really where the fuck do you get your stats from buddy?? Its because of fucked up people like you that so many gay men get this disese. Hope you burn in hell for the numerous people you have given this to without them knowing.
I am a nurse in a city with a large HIV+ community and if you think that “no one really dies any more from the disease,” you are very ignorant and misinformed!! People die from HIV/AIDS EVERY day! Not only that but they usually have to deal with multiple heath problems. Nothing sexy about being hooked up to a dialysis machine wasting away because you’re kidneys shut down or being in the ICU with sepsis for a weak immune system.
And we wore red ribbons for decades for what? A whole generation of our gay brothers and lesbian sisters died at the hands of AIDS. Why would you want to transmit a disease that’s incurable? If you’re positive, why would you want multiple strains of the virus that’ll require even more meds? Negative or positive, what is so wrong with wearing a condom? Too much responsibility? Does it really feel better when you have to take drug cocktails afterwards? The high for unprotected sex seems always more mental than physical. If you’re equating fear (especially of the unknown) with sexual desire perhaps that says more about you. Even if you’re positive, no one is denying you the right to have healthy sex; no one is asking for celibacy. Use a condom. There are other STIs beyond HIV that are incurable: hepatitis C, herpes, etc. Those w/compromised immune systems are more vulnerable to other diseases. I want hot sex that won’t require me to constantly see a doctor for meds indefinitely.
I agree with him. The amount of judgmentality and contempt for people who ie. are promiscuous or take risks is puzzling, especially coming from people who belong to are persecuted minority themselves and seem to be well aware of the life style and career moves of the porn stars they so despise.
Just as well some religious zealots could condemn us all who have anything else than marital sex: they could (correctly) argue that there would be far less trouble with STDs and unwanted pregnancies if everyone shared their values and lifestyle.
It is up to everyone to decide whether bb sex is worth the risks.
Um dear. “Judgmentality” isn’t a word.
Sorry. We can always switch to my mother tongue if you speak Finnish.
I so agree! It’s like one must chop off their dick once they get HIV.
And I’ve also thought the same thing. For a community that bitches so much about being accepted and wanting acceptance, maybe we should learn to accept our own first.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.